Amy Heilshorn joins me in the studio for a two part series on our journey into and out of some devastating church situations.  We talk about - Our move to Columbus, Ohio- Living together for over a year- College ministry -Community groups - Our homeless friends- Francis Chan and the e-mail that wrecked us- The anxiety that came with it- Asking questions- John Piper- Authoritative pastors- She Has A Name- A possible move to Atlanta- Back to Fort Wayne Our lives have quite a rollercoaster… so many hard memories but also so much good that has come out of it.  Amy was somewhat of a “reluctant” guest. I had to really talk her into doing this. And… she did great! I know there are more stories to tell, so we will have to do it again sometime. Right, Aims??? Visit the Website here! https://www.karenruthshock.com Purchase the book here! <a href='https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1957007648/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1681507542&amp;sr=8-1'>https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1957007648/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1681507542&amp;sr=8-1</a>

Season 1: Episode 7  "When Dreams are Dashed" part 2

For anyone who has lost the plot by trying to be something they are not.