– Nathan introduces Stu to the show 01:46 – KnowBe4 is a new school IT 01:51 – KnowBe4 focuses on modern security and awareness training 02:08 – KnowBe4 is a SaaS company 02:46 – Average pay per user is $15/year 03:01 – The charge is annual upfront which is easier and most people prefer that 03:26 – KnowBe4 focuses on organizations with 50 users and up 03:36 – Average seat size varies 03:52 – Average seat size for SMBs is 200-300 and for enterprise 1500-3000 seats 04:21 – Stu sold his anti-virus company in 2010 04:35 – It was called Sunbelt and Stu’s 4th startup 04:56 – “We are growing like crazy” 05:01 – KnowBe4 did $7M in 2015, $24M in 2016 and is targeting $50M this year 05:26 – KnowBe4 does inbound marketing and they send newsletters to their list of 1.2M people 05:40 – The list was built over several years 05:57 – KnowBe4 was bootstrapped for 5 years and Stu spent around a million building the company 06:07 – In December 2015, they took $8M from VC 06:47 – Total fund raised was $13M 07:11 – It was easy for Stu to let go of 20% of the company 07:25 – Stu’s told Kevin Mitnick that he would give him 50% of his company in exchange for Kevin’s 30-year experience in hacking 08:34 – The cap table 09:10 – Stu is confident that KnowBe4 will earn $50M this year 09:20 – Churn is 15% annually 09:33 – It is relatively easy to predict whether a SaaS model will be profitable 09:43 – KnowBe4 serves 9500 companies 09:55 – Average ARR 10:22 – March revenue 10:58 – Enterprise sales come in March 11:10 – Team size is 290 11:27 – CAC is around $2600 11:39 – CAC to LTV ratio is 7 12:02 – CAC payback is instant 12:17 – Average selling price per year 12:42 – Stu likes Vladimir Putin 14:03 – Eagles programs are state-sponsored programs that are offensive cyberattacks 14:49 – USA also has offensive cyber weapons, same with China and Russia 14:58 – Hackers go after the weak link in IT security, which is the human 15:15 – It comes in the form of an email 15:33 – KnowBe4 sends frequent phishing attacks that are similar to legitimate ones 15:43 – This will make the team aware and cause them to be on top of their toes in case they receive an attack 16:02 – KnowBe4 has a phish alert button 16:30 – KnowBe4 trains people with the real stuff 16:41 – Stu used to play soccer and is very competitive 16:49 – Stu has 2 reasons why he wants to go public: 16:52 – First, because he has never gone public before 16:57 – Second is to expand further and faster 17:12 – KnowBe4’s biggest competitors are PhishMe and Wombat 17:26 – Stu gets their competitors’ information from Owler 17:45 – There’s a possibility of Stu acquiring one of their competitors once they go public 18:11 – Stu got $10M from his previous exit and he’s NOT doing KnowBe4 for the money 18:57 – The biggest problem Stu had with his previous company was social engineering 19:08 – “Nobody is really taking care of the human IT security” 20:30 – The Famous Five   3 Key Points: There’s a big gap in human IT security and more and more people aren’t even aware they’re being hacked. Going public can help a company expand further and faster, and perhaps even acquire the competition. There is no such thing as retirement.   Resources Mentioned: The Top Inbox – The site Nathan uses to schedule emails to be sent later, set reminders in inbox, track opens, and follow-up with email sequences Klipfolio – Track your business performance across all departments for FREE Hotjar – Nathan uses Hotjar to track what you’re doing on this site. He gets a video of each user visit like where they clicked and scrolled to make the site a better experience Acuity Scheduling – Nathan uses Acuity to schedule his podcast interviews and appointments Host Gator– The site Nathan uses to buy his domain names and hosting for the cheapest price possible Audible– Nathan uses Audible when he’s driving from Austin to San Antonio (1.5-hour drive) to listen to audio books Show Notes provided by Mallard Creatives