Michael Shellenberger on UFOs and Aliens | Ep 52 from Rufo & Lomez

Michael Shellenberger on UFOs and Aliens | Ep 52

1 hour 1 minutes Posted May 26, 2026 at 3:00 pm.

] – Intro: Trump’s UFO Files, Government Secrecy & UFO/UAP Theories

] – Why Now? Timing, Trump & Agnosticism

] – Best Evidence: Pilots, Radars & Nukes

] – Bob Lazar, Physical Craft & False Memories

] – Politics of UFOs

] – Epistemic Collapse vs. Conspiracism

] – UFOs, Religion, NDEs & the “Control System”

] – Shellenberger’s Faith, Personal Sighting & Final Takeaways

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Author Michael Shellenberger joins the show to discuss UFO/UAP sightings, extraterrestrial life, spiritual and psychological theories, and what the mystery reveals about trust and belief.

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