This episode was originally published on April 17, 2006.

<a href="http://www.tbray.org/ongoing">Tim Bray</a>, co-inventor of XML, talks about the appeal of Ruby as a dynamic language and where Java might have a place in the future of Rails. Also features <a href="http://jroller.com/page/obie">Obie Fernandez</a> and <a href="http://www.daveastels.com">Dave Astels</a>.

<a href="http://workonrails.com">workonrails.com</a>: Find or post Ruby on Rails jobs.

<a href="http://bloc.io">bloc.io</a>: Learn to program with Ruby on Rails. Use code RAILS and save $100.

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