On this episode we had the privilege of speaking with Ray Wenderlich!

Ray is an indie app developer who runs one of the best developer tutorial sites this side of the pond.

We talk about his time at the National Security Agency (NSA), Electronic Arts (EA), and what prompted him to start raywenderlich.com.

Be sure to stick around for the After Show. You know... so you can find out what happens After the Apocalypse.