My favorite Bitcoin Exchange: Save fees with my code "ROBIN" or visit: https://robinbtc.link/21bitcoinSummaryThis conversation covers the journey of Relai, a Bitcoin-only startup, and the challenges and successes they have faced. It explores the mindset differences between the fiat and Bitcoin worlds and the reasons behind starting a company. The conversation also touches on Switzerland's adoption of Bitcoin and the potential future of Relai in a Bitcoin standard world. Julian Liniger discusses the importance of having a long-term vision and the ability to adapt in order to sustain a company's success. He uses examples from Apple and Netflix to illustrate how companies evolve and continue to serve their customers. Julian also explores the overarching vision of Relai and the potential for Bitcoin to serve as a means of preserving purchasing power. The conversation concludes with Julian sharing the various ways to get in contact with him and the Relai team.TakeawaysRelai started as a Bitcoin-only startup and evolved based on user feedback and market demand.Switzerland has been open to Bitcoin and blockchain innovation, attracting many companies and investors in the space.The mindset of fiat workers and Bitcoin workers differs in terms of entrepreneurial spirit, questioning the financial system, and long-term thinking.Starting a company requires perseverance, overcoming challenges, and a drive to make a difference.Relai has experienced ups and downs but has built a strong culture and attracted investors and talent.In the future, Relai aims to go public, expand geographically, and offer new products and services.Building a startup is a rollercoaster journey with moments of doubt and resilience.In a Bitcoin standard world, Relai purpose would evolve beyond transactional services to focus on a higher mission.Chapters