RiYL
RiYL
Brian Heater
Episode 085: Francoise Mouly
1 hour 17 minutes Posted Dec 23, 2014 at 4:46 am.
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The Greenwich Village loft space occupied by Toon Books is

one part office space, part living comics museum. There’s a row of
iMacs where most of the business is done, from filling orders to taking
product shots, while just above on a second level balcony, a spool of
bubble wrap roughly the size of a Volkswagen Beetle leans against a wall
of bookshelves fit for a small library. There are decades of
fascinating ephemera lining the walls, original comics pages, an
in-store cardboard cutout for Chris Ware’s Acme Novelty Library and,
most compelling of all, the Gary Panter classic comics head mashup
painting that graced the first issue of the RAW’s second volume (1989’s
“Open Wounds from the Cutting Edge of Commix”). It’s hardly a
surprise, of course, that so many amazing pieces call the space their
home. Francoise Mouly has been here for decades herself, since the days
when she and husband Art Spiegelman first altered the course of the New
York City avant garde comics community with a nascent anthology aimed at
offering a publishing home to unknowns like Charles Burns, Joost
Swarte, Ben Katchor and, naturally, Spiegelman, who used those pulpy
pages to serialize a groundbreaking first-hand account of the holocaust
starring a cast of cat and mice. That the Toon Books office
occupies the same space is certainly no coincidence. Like RAW before it,
the kids comics publishing company was launched to fill a perceived
hole in the comics community in the wake of a media that had arguably
overcorrected. Thanks to trailblazing works like Maus, the
headline-ready phrase “comics aren’t just for kids” had quickly turned
from rallying cry to cliche as adult-focused books rapidly became the
norm in the intervening decades since RAW closed its doors. In
the 00s, Mouly — by then the art director of The New Yorker — pitched a
line of education kids bolstered by Jeff Smith’s epic fantasy
masterpiece to Scholastic. By 2008, the idea gave way to Toon Books, an
independent entity focused on books by cartoonists like Spiegelman,
Smith and Eleanor Davis aimed at teaching kids to read and bolstered by
detailed lesson plans aimed at reintroducing comics into a classroom
setting.  A half-dozen years later, Toons’ scope continues to
grow, including the recent publication of a Hanzel and Gretel adaptation
penned by Sandman scribe Neil Gaiman. I sat down with Mouly in the
middle of Toon Books' cramped quarters to discuss the company's role in
the ever-evolving perception of comics as a educational tool.