"With creatives something I hear quite often is that they don't like sales. By rephrasing it we can say, 'let's do some matchmaking and see if we match'. " - Claudia MayerIn this episode of the RevThinking podcast, Joel Pilger sits down with Claudia Mayer, Creative Business Coach, asking the question, is there a disconnect between creativity and business? And of course some of the timeliness of the pandemic and how that's effecting business and creatives.