Abraham and Owen have an energetic discussion, diving into:

• Owen’s career and how he got into financial journalism
• Owen’s standout moment in his journalism career
• Owen’s book Built on a Lie: The Rise and Fall of Neil Woodford and the Fate of Middle England’s Money:

- He unpacks the details of Neil Woodford’s early life and his downfall

- The FCA loophole which existed which enabled Woodford

- The wider lessons for investors

- The role of journalists – were they a part in hyping up Woodford to be ‘the man who couldn’t stop making money’?

- 2 years on and the questions that remain unanswered– was it really built on a lie?

- Woodford’s comeback…

• And finally, how Owen is saving for his own retirement