Dr Tyson Yunkaporta is a member of the Apalech clan in far north Queensland, Australia. He is a Senior Research Fellow in Indigenous knowledges at Deakin University and the author of 'Sand Talk: How Indigenous Thinking Can Save the World' (2019).

In this episode, we discuss the colonial space, Indigenous perspectives on deviance and social control, the culture wars, advice for police, and the idea that humans are a custodial species.