Former trauma counsellor Julia Butler chats with the hilarious comedian, artist, writer and MS ambassador Tim Ferguson about living with MS, the advantages of adult nappies and, of course, resilience.<br /><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for privacy and opt-out information.</p>

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Now is the perfect time to talk about resilience – and who better to start the conversation than Julia Butler. A former trauma counsellor and passionate artist from the Blue Mountains, Julia was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis in 2019. She is now on a journey to enhance her own resilience. Warm, engaging and quick witted, Julia asks people what sustains them through difficult times and what they do in order to strengthen their resilience. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.