We welcome former WWE referee Roger Ruffen to the show this week.  When Roger started he trained to be a wrestler, then he transitioned into being a referee when he joined the then WWF.  Years later started training wrestlers like Chris Harris, Abyss, Karl Anderson, Jordan Clearwater, Jillian Hall, Lord Crewe, and Nikki Victory.  Roger talks about all this and so much more this week.       Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitup Website<a href="https://linktr.ee/refinitup">⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠</a> Brian Hebner Social MediaTwitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social MediaTwitter: @jimmykorderasIG: @realjimmykorderas Daniel Spencer Social Media Twitter/IG: @DanielSpencer Artwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702 Music by Downstait and AJ McKay  We are extremely happy to announce our new partnership with PSL City Tickets Follow them on all social media platforms We will have free sporting event tickets with tailgating before, and more giveaways.  Visit pslcity.net to get the best tickets in your city!!

"The Veteran" Thigh Slapper

Former WWE referees Brian Hebner and Jimmy Korderas and TNA and OVW Senior Referee Daniel Spencer dive deep into the wrestling business and it’s talent from the view of the 3rd man in the ring