The Pope has a long and historic career in the wrestling business.  This week we all find out that Pope has one of the best wrestling minds in the business.  Pope talks about working with CM Punk and also the comments Punk had about Pope in 2012.  The work Pope put in to become of one the great young talent in the business was evident when he started OVW before eventually making it to the main roster of WWE.  Not only did he have a great run in WWE but Pope had an iconic run in TNA as a much watch and listen.  All this and ore on this weeks episode!!! Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup ⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠ Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social Media Twitter: @jimmykorderas IG: @realjimmykorderas Artwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702 Music by AJ McKay ⁠⁠⁠⁠ajmckaycreative.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get 20% OFF + Free Shipping with promo code REFIN at MANSCAPED.com! #ad #manscapedpod Try BlueChew FREE when you use our promo code REFIN at checkout--just pay $5 shipping. That’s BlueChew.com, promo code REFIN to receive your first month FREE. Visit BlueChew.com for more details and important safety information, and we thank BlueChew for sponsoring the podcast.

Hermie Sadler not only has made an impact all over NASCAR history but he has also made an imprint in the wresting world as well; from helping Seth Rollins get started in wrestling to working with “The Rock” Hermie has done alot for many people.    Hermie recounts his time racing go karts at a young age to driving stock cars with his brother Elliot; but he also talks about his fandom of wrestling before getting thoroughly involved with it later in life.  From TNA to UWF Hermie has done a-lot in his life and will continue to do so as he continues to make an imprint across the world.    Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup ⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠ Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social Media Twitter: @jimmykorderas IG: @realjimmykorderas Artwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702 Music by AJ McKay ⁠⁠⁠ajmckaycreative.com⁠⁠⁠ Get 20% OFF + Free Shipping with promo code REFIN at MANSCAPED.com! #ad #manscapedpod Try BlueChew FREE when you use our promo code REFIN at checkout--just pay $5 shipping. That’s BlueChew.com, promo code REFIN to receive your first month FREE. Visit BlueChew.com for more details and important safety information, and we thank BlueChew for sponsoring the podcast.

Chris Sabin is one of the most decorated champions in TNA history and has done most everything there has to do in professional wrestling.  As part of one the greatest tag teams of all time, Motor City Machine Guns; Chris Sabin and Alex Shelley had some phenomenal matches and feuds with teams like Beer Money and the Young Bucks (aka Generation Me in TNA.)  Chris talks about how impactful Scott D’Amore was on his career; as well as being only the second person to kick out of the “3D” from Team 3D/ Dudley Boyz.  All this as well as Brian and Jimmy remembering some of their Survivor Series moments. Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup ⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠ Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social Media Twitter: @jimmykorderas IG: @realjimmykorderas Artwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702 Music by AJ McKay ⁠⁠⁠⁠ajmckaycreative.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get 20% OFF + Free Shipping with promo code REFIN at MANSCAPED.com! #ad #manscapedpod Try BlueChew FREE when you use our promo code REFIN at checkout--just pay $5 shipping. That’s BlueChew.com, promo code REFIN to receive your first month FREE. Visit BlueChew.com for more details and important safety information, and we thank BlueChew for sponsoring the podcast.

SoCal Val has been all over the world for wrestling and so much more.  She joins the show this week and talks about her time in TNA and the immense amount of fun she had with  Kurt Angle, Bobby Roode, Jay Lethal, and Sonjay Dutt.  Val also talks about what she is currently doing with GAW TV, with Mickie James and Lisa Marie Varon. She has also taken to her passion hosting  wrestling conventions all over the world.  Listen to find out all the great stories Val has and so much more.   Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup ⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠ Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social Media Twitter: @jimmykorderas IG: @realjimmykorderas Artwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702 Music by AJ McKay ⁠⁠⁠ajmckaycreative.com⁠⁠⁠ Get 20% OFF + Free Shipping with promo code REFIN at MANSCAPED.com! #ad #manscapedpod Try BlueChew FREE when you use our promo code REFIN at checkout--just pay $5 shipping. That’s BlueChew.com, promo code REFIN to receive your first month FREE. Visit BlueChew.com for more details and important safety information, and we thank BlueChew for sponsoring the podcast. Go to hellofresh.com/refinfree and or use the promo code REFINFREE for FREE breakfast. One breakfast item per box while subscription is active. 

John E. Bravo wears many hats in IMPACT Wresting; and this week he talks about what he has done in his career.  Bravo has done almost everything in wrestling from a wrestler, to a referee, to a production supervisor, and as a manager.  John E. Bravo talks about what the transition was like from a wrestler to a referee and how it was and is to run the “Go Position” in TNA/IMPACT.  Finally, he talks about helping training some of the young talent coming out of the Can Am Wrestling School in Windsor, Ontario, Canada.   Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup ⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠ Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social Media Twitter: @jimmykorderas IG: @realjimmykorderas Artwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702 Music by AJ McKay ⁠⁠⁠ajmckaycreative.com⁠⁠⁠ Get 20% OFF + Free Shipping with promo code REFIN at MANSCAPED.com! #ad #manscapedpod Try BlueChew FREE when you use our promo code REFIN at checkout--just pay $5 shipping. That’s BlueChew.com, promo code REFIN to receive your first month FREE. Visit BlueChew.com for more details and important safety information, and we thank BlueChew for sponsoring the podcast. Go to hellofresh.com/refinfree and or use the promo code REFINFREE for FREE breakfast. One breakfast item per box while subscription is active.

One of the best wrestling minds of all time joins us this week on Refin It Up.  Gangrel joins Brian and Jimmy to talk about the foundation of what went in to the character of Gangrel.  We also go into depth on the formation of “The Brood,” even in its short run of 8 months got over huge with the WWE audience and is still talked about to this day.  Gangrel is the current head trainer at Coastal Championship Wresting in Florida and he speaks on the school and a few of the wrestlers that he thinks deserves to be seen on a bigger stage.  This and so much more on this week’s GREAT episode!!! Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup https://linktr.ee/refinitup Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social Media Twitter: @jimmykorderas IG: @realjimmykorderas Artwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702 Music by AJ McKay ⁠⁠ajmckaycreative.com⁠⁠ Get 20% OFF + Free Shipping with promo code REFIN at MANSCAPED.com! #ad #manscapedpod Try BlueChew FREE when you use our promo code REFIN at checkout--just pay $5 shipping. That’s BlueChew.com, promo code REFIN to receive your first month FREE. Visit BlueChew.com for more details and important safety information, and we thank BlueChew for sponsoring the podcast. Go to hellofresh.com/refinfree and or use the promo code REFINFREE for FREE breakfast. One breakfast item per box while subscription is active

Through the highs and lows in the wrestling business Caleb Konley has come out the other side of it stronger for making it through it.  This week Caleb talks about the trials and tribulations he went through in the business; as well as some of the high moments he had as well.  The passion Caleb shows for the business in one of a kind and you will hear it this week and so much more.   Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup https://linktr.ee/refinitup Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social Media Twitter: @jimmykorderas IG: @realjimmykorderas Artwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702 Music by AJ McKay ⁠⁠ajmckaycreative.com⁠⁠ Get 20% OFF + Free Shipping with promo code REFIN at MANSCAPED.com! #ad #manscapedpod Try BlueChew FREE when you use our promo code REFIN at checkout--just pay $5 shipping. That’s BlueChew.com, promo code REFIN to receive your first month FREE. Visit BlueChew.com for more details and important safety information, and we thank BlueChew for sponsoring the podcast. Go to HelloFresh.com/50refin and or use code 50refin for 50% off plus 15% off the next 2 months!

One of the critical men from the infamous “Minivan of Love” joins the show this week.  Craig Jenkins joins us this week and talks about the side of the business that most people haven’t head before. As the Head of Live Events and Ticketing for TNA Craig has a-lot of great stories from those days and so much more.  Furthermore, we have a special run in by another member of the “Minivan of Love.”  Listen to this weeks episode to find out who did a run in.  Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup https://linktr.ee/refinitup Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social Media Twitter: @jimmykorderas IG: @realjimmykorderas Artwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702 Music by AJ McKay ⁠⁠ajmckaycreative.com⁠⁠ Get 20% OFF + Free Shipping with promo code REFIN at MANSCAPED.com! #ad #manscapedpod Try BlueChew FREE when you use our promo code REFIN at checkout--just pay $5 shipping. That’s BlueChew.com, promo code REFIN to receive your first month FREE. Visit BlueChew.com for more details and important safety information, and we thank BlueChew for sponsoring the podcast. Go to HelloFresh.com/50refin and or use code 50refin for 50% off plus 15% off the next 2 months!

Don’t chop believing we’ve got a special feeling that todays episode will be “Cash Money,” as we welcome Cash Flo to the show.  As a former heavyweight champion in OVW Cash Flo road up and down the road for many years excelling and trying to master his craft in the wrestling business.  On this episode he talks about coming up in the business in IWA Mid South and doing what he had to do to get noticed by the right people.  Furthermore, Cash talks about the impact of Al Snow on his career and life as well.  All this and so much more on this great episode of Refin It Up!!!  Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup https://linktr.ee/refinitup Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social Media Twitter: @jimmykorderas IG: @realjimmykorderas Daniel Spencer Social Media  Twitter: @DanielSpencer  IG: @DanielSpencer  ringsidepodcast.com  Artwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702 Music by AJ McKay ⁠⁠ajmckaycreative.com⁠⁠ Get 20% OFF + Free Shipping with promo code REFIN at MANSCAPED.com! #ad #manscapedpod Try BlueChew FREE when you use our promo code REFIN at checkout--just pay $5 shipping. That’s BlueChew.com, promo code REFIN to receive your first month FREE. Visit BlueChew.com for more details and important safety information, and we thank BlueChew for sponsoring the podcast. Go to HelloFresh.com/50refin and or use code 50refin for 50% off plus 15% off the next 2 months!

The face that runs the place joins us this week. “Mr. Pectacular” Jessie Godderz has been from Big Brother to TNA to OVW and all points in between. Jessie continues to be one of the best in marketing yourself; he talks about that and so much more this week on Refin It Up!!!!  Refin It Up Social Media Twitter, Threads, and IG @refinitup https://linktr.ee/refinitup Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social Media Twitter: @jimmykorderas IG: @realjimmykorderas Daniel Spencer Social Media  Twitter: @DanielSpencer  IG: @DanielSpencer  ringsidepodcast.com  Artwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702 Music by AJ McKay ⁠⁠ajmckaycreative.com⁠⁠ Get 20% OFF + Free Shipping with promo code REFIN at MANSCAPED.com! #ad #manscapedpod Try BlueChew FREE when you use our promo code REFIN at checkout--just pay $5 shipping. That’s BlueChew.com, promo code REFIN to receive your first month FREE. Visit BlueChew.com for more details and important safety information, and we thank BlueChew for sponsoring the podcast. Go to HelloFresh.com/50refin and or use code 50refin for 50% off plus 15% off the next 2 months!