On this episode Noel talks with Pastor Ronnie Martin about his book The Best Gift Ever Given: A 25-Day Journey Through Advent from God's Good Gifts to God's Great Son and Pastor Pete Ziolkowski about his book Fart Dad: The Case of the Toynado. While these books are wildly different from each other, they both bring an important gospel message for young readers. 

• Substance Church 
• Imago Dei Church