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#426 Jeremy Ryan Slate - America Is Repeating Rome's Fatal Mistakes
1 hour 4 minutes Posted Jul 31, 2026 at 12:30 pm.
Zuby is joined by CEO of Command Your Brand and creator of The Roman Pattern, Jeremy Ryan Slate. Jeremy shares the parallels between the fall of the Roman Empire and the current trajectory of the United States and the West. From currency debasement and open borders to the feminisation and gender confusion he traces all back to first-century Rome. The conversation explores what happens when a civilisation stops producing serious leaders, the double-edged sword of modern technology, why democracy incentivises short-termism, and whether America can escape the same fate that ended a thousand-year civilisation.Sponsored by:Veritas Wealth Management helps families, business owners, and retirees build real financial freedom through hands-on expert investment guidance. Schedule a call today at https://veritasalaska.comTimestamps:
Introduction
What is the Roman Pattern?
Republic vs Empire — the crucial difference
The Alexander the Great obsession
Why every man is thinking about Rome
The feminisation of society
Gender fluidity in ancient Rome
Modern America mirrors late Rome
Currency debasement — then and now
What comes after 250 years?
Censorship, Elon & the media war
Rome with smartphones — a thought experiment
Technology's power to enslave and liberate
Why can't we get decent leaders?
The "Hollywood for ugly people" problem
The money problem in politics
How the USA can avoid Rome's fate
Democracy's short-termism problem
Three policies if Zuby were king
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Zuby is joined by CEO of Command Your Brand and creator of The Roman Pattern, Jeremy Ryan Slate. Jeremy shares the parallels between the fall of the Roman Empire and the current trajectory of the United States and the West. From currency debasement and open borders to the feminisation and gender confusion he traces all back to first-century Rome. The conversation explores what happens when a civilisation stops producing serious leaders, the double-edged sword of modern technology, why democracy incentivises short-termism, and whether America can escape the same fate that ended a thousand-year civilisation.Sponsored by:Veritas Wealth Management helps families, business owners, and retirees build real financial freedom through hands-on expert investment guidance. Schedule a call today at https://veritasalaska.comTimestamps:(00:00) Introduction(01:15) What is the Roman Pattern?(02:27) Republic vs Empire — the crucial difference(04:17) The Alexander the Great obsession(07:17) Why every man is thinking about Rome(09:28) The feminisation of society(12:20) Gender fluidity in ancient Rome(18:36) Modern America mirrors late Rome(24:14) Currency debasement — then and now(28:19) What comes after 250 years?(32:34) Censorship, Elon & the media war(34:30) Rome with smartphones — a thought experiment(35:46) Technology's power to enslave and liberate(42:22) Why can't we get decent leaders?(45:02) The "Hollywood for ugly people" problem(48:21) The money problem in politics(52:47) How the USA can avoid Rome's fate(54:49) Democracy's short-termism problem(01:03:26) Three policies if Zuby were king(01:04:34) Where to find Jeremy online__Follow Jeremy Ryan Slate:https://x.com/jeremyryanslateFollow Zuby:https://linktr.ee/zubymusicSubscribe to 'Real Talk with Zuby' on Apple Podcasts or Spotify:https://fanlink.tv/zubypodcastAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy