Rhonda V. Magee is a professor of law at the University of San Francisco. She is also a highly practiced facilitator of trauma-sensitive, restorative Mindfulness-Based Stress Reduction (MBSR) interventions for lawyers and law students. Rhonda Magee sat down with Mindful’s managing editor, Stephanie Domet to talk about why her work in social justice is important to her, how she navigates the difficult feelings that arise, what it looks like when she loses her cool—and why she’s not interested in burning it all down and starting again, because even in intergenerationally dark times, she says, there’s still the ability to love. And love can carry us through.