We kick off with much discussion on CISOs: the secrets and qualities of successful them, where they fit into the org chart and their role and how that has changed.  XDR - what is it?  We try and parse out what XDR means vs platforms, how it helps threat hunting, and how it deals with issues such as alert fatigue, and obfuscation.

We also hear that Greg got a haircut from a professional stylist during an office Zoom chat (without violating lockdown) lowering his popularity with colleagues, while Bill rocks a Renaissance hat and gets into D&D.