<p>this week on the pod, we're talking about the thong that did a thing. not sure what we're talking about? listen in, as we sit down with brenda berger and discuss her hanky panky journey from sales to ceo! </p>

meghan holzhauer + jurrien swarts & stojo

we're creating space for the brains behind the brands we love, and asking good questions along the way. the result is a deep dive into the how and why of brand-building, from blueprints to launch day, customers as community and the detours in between. big lessons, easy listening!