<div>Phil chats with Gary Hardgrave, media personality and former politician. </div>

Phil Diver chats with everyday people leading interesting lives.

Phil is the CEO of The Construction Training Centre in Brisbane. He's also a rugby enthusiast, mindfulness champion, and holds a particular interest in the new business philosophy of collaborative consumption, corporate social responsibility and eastern philosophy in western business practice.

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