Is all art, is in some ways manipulative? Isn’t entertainment just another means to educate? Today’s guest is Wesley Enoch, a writer and director that has helped shape some of Australia’s most iconic and celebrated Indigenous theatre productions including “The Sapphires” the true story turned play by Tony Briggs that become a film earning 20 million at the Australian box office. It’s always a real personal treat to hear about the history and background to a iconic or landmark piece of art - but this conversation showed me the different philosophies and methodologies every individual takes to shape the messages and causes they are passionate about. How art can be as Wesley suggests a “trojan horse for change…”He has worked as Artistic Director of Queensland Theatre Company, the Sydney Festival, a for the 2018 Gold Coast Commonwealth Games. His many original plays are celebrated pieces of Australian theatre and we chat from his office at Sydney Festival in 2019 - yes this is another one from the vault! - He ramble through his early days plying his trade, his mentor Nick Enright, the Australian playwright and director and how that infused his work and life as a director… but it comes back to the Sapphires today folks - the story of four women that travel to Vietnam to sing for troops in 1968. A true story turned play, turned film that inspired and educated many of us. Without us realising at the time.