Ilana’s guest is Dr Danièle Hromek, a Saltwater woman of Budawang/Dhurga/Yuin and Burrier/Dharawal ancestry, with French and Czech heritage. Danièle is a spatial designer and Country-centred designer. Danièle is the first Indigenous person in Australia to achieve a PhD in built environment and spatial disciplines. Her research and experience contributed to the Connecting with Country framework and Designing with Country discussion piece by Government Architect NSW.As director of Djinjama, Danièle’s methodologies lead their approach to working with Country. Her work as a researcher, educator and cultural advisor brings Country, culture and community to the built environment by creating spaces to substantially affect Indigenous rights and culture.Danièle holds a Doctor of Philosophy (Design), and Bachelor of Design (Interior Spatial Design, Performance major).Danièle has been recognised as an Honorary Fellow at the University of Western Sydney for contributions to the cultural enhancement of the Western Sydney region, and has been awarded an Honorary Fellowship from the Australian Institute of Architects for her contributions to the profession of Architecture and Design.