In a candid and self-revelatory conversation, Mark and Kelly reveal their own unique stories of spiritual awakening as a result of choosing the path of sobriety. While our journeys have been different, we share our genuine experiences with gratitude, community, acceptance, balancing joy and anger, and the challenging but rewarding work of coping with a constant barrage of thoughts from our wild human minds! We reinforce the idea that sobriety doesn’t require any belief in a traditional religious view, but it can definitely be a spiritual transformation through intentionality, mindfulness, and faith. [Note: We do mention the principles of some specific popular approaches to sobriety, but we do not speak on behalf of any organization or program; the opinions and experiences we talk about here are purely our own.]