What does it mean to be a man? The eye-opening second half of this animated three-way conversation with Mark, Kelly, and our returning guest Jon Carl Lewis, talking about spirituality, sexuality, and the embodiment of masculinity—whether straight, queer, or trans. We explore the paradox of being simultaneously men of the world and “children of God,” balancing trusting God to help with our troubles and doing what we can in our power as well, and the need that even the strongest man has for community.