In this episode, I chat with Julie and Shelby Kibler, owners of Field & Fire Bakery and Café. 7 years into the life of their business, which now has two locations in Grand Rapids, MI Julie and Shelby are beginning to examine how they as a small business can contribute to and support social justice change. 

To learn more about Field + Fire, please visit fieldandfire.com

This interview has been edited and condensed for clarity.

Where Do We Go From Here? Discussing COVID-19's Impact on Restaurants, with Mike Borraccio

Ruminate, a nonprofit innovation lab, is digesting some Questionable Food. Community food leaders join us every other week to discuss what they wish more folks were talking about. Each guest shares stories of their triumphs, struggles, and frustrations, with a focus on the ethics, equity, and environmental sustainability issues within our food system. As we move from community to community, we gain a closer look at the breadth of the American food experience. Hosted by Kara Kaminski-Killiany. Produced by Ryan Kaminski-Killiany. Research Assistance by Monika Krol.