Dat was used to live in Singapore with his wife during the weekend, and work in Jakarta, Indonesia during the week, where he helped to redevelop the slums.

Except that now he cannot leave Singapore anymore.

In this fascinating conversation, Dat talks openly about:

• his concerns about the spread of COVID-19 through the slums of Jakarta,

• the opportunities to be found in periods like these in developing countries

• his hobby of creating charts to deconstruct the world around him

• finance, socio-economics and more!