<p>Joe Aston is no stranger to controversy, and as a former writer of the Financial Review&apos;s rear window sometimes he created it. Christopher Pyne sat down with Joe to discuss overcoming his alcoholism, how that improved him as a person and hanging out at the Mar-a-Lago.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2197921/support">Support the show</a></p>

For years Christopher Pyne was on the receiving end of a barrage of questions from the media and politicians but still managed to keep it together and had a successful career in politics. Now he is out of the game and risking it all to step out of his comfort zone and embrace a new world of media to turn the tables and go from the interviewee to the interviewer (…sort of). Hear the stories from guests that you’ve never heard before, as they succumb to what people describe as “the Pyne Effect”.