In the second episode of Pushing the Perimeter, we take a look at how current events, specifically the Brexit, can be seen as a catalyst for larger shifts in the way government works, we examine possible aspects of that future bureaucracy, and we find out in some cases -- that future is already here.Guests on this episode:Cat Tully - Director, School of International FuturesMallory Barg Bulman - Director of Research and Evaluation, Partnership for Public ServiceLearn more at www.theclearing.com