This episode starts off light and Wes is definitely a lot more sillier in the beginning, as we cut jokes about recent events happening in the world. Towards half-way on the show, Sally reflects on a time when her (at the time) alcoholic mother was barely present and how most of her childhood trauma effects the way she parents and how it sent her into a deep depression.--- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/sally-meno/support