Jessa made a joke on twitter saying that she wanted to write a book called “Heterosexuality is a Fucking Nightmare.” She received an e-mail from another user intrigued by the idea, Indiana Seresin, encouraging her to write the book. They began corresponding on the topic, discussing things like desire, love, sociology, consent, personal stories of heartbreak and sexual regret. Their paths crossed in Berlin earlier this summer and Jessa invited Indiana onto Public Intellectual to make some of their private conversations public. Together, Jessa and Indiana discuss their thoughts on why heterosexuality is a fucking nightmare and talk about the expectations of gender conformity, love, and marriage in today’s society.