Shannon and Ogun are joined by the show's producer Derrick Weston to celebrate Star Wars day, explore favorite SW and Bible characters, discuss how they are keeping sane (?) and reflect on fears of "reopening".

PT Live, Episode 163: Leadership and Ice Cream.

Beer, Conversation, and God. People have been gathering in pubs and public spaces for ages, talking about life, philosophy, faith, and deep questions of meaning. Now we're bringing the conversation to the interwebs. Visit pubtheology.com for more info and to start a gathering of your own. Visit patreon.com/ptlive for more content including pre and post show discussions and interviews with special guests.