When the wise learn of the Tao,  they surf it throughout their lives.  When most of us learn of the Tao, we sometimes surf it,  sometimes wipe out. When fools learn of the Tao, they laugh at it.  And of course they do! If they didn’t, it wouldn’t be the Tao.

Informal Fallacies in the Popular Defense of Ravi Zacharias

Hosts are Stacie Mallinson (educator, death doula and yogini) and Jeff Mallinson (D.Phil., Oxford, historian of philosophy and religion). This is usually a conversation with the news in one hand and the Tao Te Ching in the other, but the history of ideas and the wisdom of various traditions are also regular topics.