<p>The Sage is a savior of all people and discounts no one. She's not content with heaven, so long as anyone remains in a living hell.</p>

Flow with The River of Life (Tao Te Ching 28)

Hosts are Stacie Mallinson (educator, death doula and yogini) and Jeff Mallinson (D.Phil., Oxford, historian of philosophy and religion). This is usually a conversation with the news in one hand and the Tao Te Ching in the other, but the history of ideas and the wisdom of various traditions are also regular topics.