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It's episode 42 and Columbus sailed the ocean blue (and hoped to trigger the apocalypse). Fan favorite Dr. Thomas Lecaque is back to tell us about Christopher Columbus! The actual, historical figure is often lost in the modern myths about him. Reilly and Elle get into the details of a chocolate raspberry cake and a lemon blueberry cake. Check out this episode's bakes on Instagram @ProofingAndLies and find us on Twitter @ProofingL. Find Dr. Lecaque on Twitter @tlecaque

A special thanks to Minelly Marcelino for our intro and outro music.

043 Honey Buns and Solitary Confinement with Drs Smith and Hattery

Guest experts join sociologist Elle Rochford to dive into new topics and new baking projects every other Monday! 

Social scientist and amateur baker, Elle, interviews guest experts each week to talk through important political and social issues. Follow Proofing and Lies on Instagram (@ProofingAndLies) or on twitter (@ProofingL) to check out how each baking project turned out and be sure to like, subscribe, follow, and review PAL wherever podcasts are found.