Show notes
This week Andrew and Elle go all out on holiday baking from sculpted caramel to doggie treats. They also dive into the far less fun subject of terrorism - how we understand it and what policies are trying to address it. Andrew and Elle are joined this week by policy expert Anna Meier, PhD Candidate at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. Learn more about her work at annameier.net and learn more about the baked goods featured in this episode @ProofingAndLies on Instagram.
NOTE: This interview was recorded prior to the Nashville Christmas day bombing.

