<p>Performer and musician, Gracie Martin, join Andrew and Elle to talk about how Covid has impacted the art scene. From canceled tours to wondering about innovative ways to create in the future, Gracie talks about how the pandemic has changed her plans. Andrew and Elle try out a single serve cupcake recipe and together they brainstorm ways to stay joyful in the pandemic. Follow @ProofingandLies on Instagram to see photos of this week's bake and follow Gracie Martin on Spotify, YouTube and TikTok. Her new single drops in early 2021 and you can check out her internationally acclaimed music video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-til65vQ8E</p>

008 Herb Bread (fail) and City-Level Climate Change Policy with Devon Cantwell

Guest experts join sociologist Elle Rochford to dive into new topics and new baking projects every other Monday! 

Social scientist and amateur baker, Elle, interviews guest experts each week to talk through important political and social issues. Follow Proofing and Lies on Instagram (@ProofingAndLies) or on twitter (@ProofingL) to check out how each baking project turned out and be sure to like, subscribe, follow, and review PAL wherever podcasts are found.