Luis Elizondo is the former director of the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program. I imagine a lot of people listening to this already know about Lue, but for those who don’t: all you need to know is that he is a highly credentialed former counterintelligence officer for the Department of Defense who later went on to study UFOs or UAPs for the Pentagon. Yes, he really did that. I had hundreds of questions for Lue that I had to condense down quite a bit out of respect for his time, but I think we covered a lot of ground. We get into some of my concerns about conspiracy culture, to what extent AATIP investigated the famous Nimitz 2004 incident, UFOs &amp; Nukes, baiting UFOs, his feelings on former AFOSI agent Richard Doty, and so much more.Relevant Links: <a href="https://www.gofundme.com/f/memorial-for-nathan-hendrickson?utm_campaign=p_nacp%20share-sheet&amp;utm_medium=social&amp;utm_source=twitter" target="">Nathan Hendrickson Memorial — GoFundMe</a>

#13 - Tom Rogan & Tim McMillan

Conversations we have in everyday life are not directed. We just have them. It is the conversations we don’t expect to have that have the most impact. Think of the last time you had an unexpectedly profound chat with a total stranger. You weren’t expecting to meet that person and you couldn’t possibly have planned it, but you certainly remember it. Some part or many parts of that exchange stuck out, and burned into your memory. It was exactly what you needed to hear, perhaps by total accident or mysterious coincidence. That is what Zac Cichy hopes to cultivate with this project. Vast adventure awaits you. This is Project Human.