So, Kim and the don are up in the White House talking about prison reform. Wow. Ok. Well, let's talk with someone who has a bit more experience than them. Yeah. I said it...this week I have my man Rev. Dominique Gilliard on the show to talk about his new book and what prison reform really looks like from a PoC perspective. We go in. His new book, Rethinking Incarceration with IVP, digs deep and moves us past just simplistic solutions and empty promises. Get ready, this some heavy stuff...especially if you still think the people in prison are the "bad people" and have made decisions that got them there. Let's go!