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Artists are writing way too much. Justin has been saying it for years. In this roundtable, he sits down with Ryan Marrone, Lucas Arens, and Sam SZND to finally dig into why it's happening, what it's doing to the people in the room, and what a healthier model actually looks like.
- Ryan Marrone (@ryanmarrone) -- producer and songwriter with credits spanning JP Saxe, Sabrina Carpenter, GAYLE, and Lauren Spencer Smith.
- Lucas Arens (@lucasarens) -- Nashville-based producer, songwriter, mixer, and multi-instrumentalist. Credits include Devon Again, Charli Adams, Brye, and emlyn, plus sync placements on Disney and Apple.
- Sam SZND (@samsznd) -- multi-platinum songwriter and recording artist whose credits include NCT Dream, NCT Wish, Katseye, NexZ, and 8TURN.
🎛️ We cover:
- The traditional model vs. now -- what actually changed and when
- Decision fatigue: how 200 songs makes it harder, not easier, to put anything out
- The toll on songwriters and producers who make incredible records that never come out
- Who's actually driving the write-more agenda -- the artist, the manager, or the A&R
- The live show problem: why artists not playing live is connected to writing too much
- Spurts vs. grinding -- what a healthy creative schedule actually looks like
- Current events: GEMA wins its lawsuit against Suno, and BTS boycotts the Grammys
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Ryan Marrone: @ryanmarrone
Lucas Arens: @lucasarens
Sam SZND: @samsznd
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