<p>Special guests Diana Deibel and Rebecca Evanhoe join the show. They are the co-authors of the recent book, “<a href="https://rosenfeldmedia.com/books/conversations-with-things/">Conversations with Things</a>” and we discuss how to design machines so they better understand everyone.</p>
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<h4 style='display: inline;'>Guest Starring:</h4> <p style='display: inline;'><a href='http://www.relay.fm/people/dianadeibel'>Diana Deibel</a> and <a href='http://www.relay.fm/people/rebeccaevanhoe'>Rebecca Evanhoe</a></p>
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118: The Path to Product Management

The Presentable Podcast focuses on how we design and build the products that are shaping our digital future. We'll track the tools, trends, and methods being used by teams from the biggest companies and latest startups. In each episode, Jeff will bring over two decades of experience as a designer, developer, entrepreneur, and investor as he chats with guests about how design is changing the world. Hosted by Jeff Veen.