Pope Honorius II certainly had an unconventional and illegitimate start to his papacy, but no one was willing to let him resign! In his episode, we discuss the full circle Papal-Imperial moment, some very uppity abbots, puppeting dying men... and a creamy John. Sign up for the Pontifacts Tour of Italy 2027:https://tinyurl.com/pontifactstourSupport Pontifacts: Patreon:  https://www.patreon.com/pontifactspodPaypal: https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/pontifactspodcast Ko-fi: https://ko-fi.com/pontifactspodAmazon Wishlist: https://tinyurl.com/pontifactswishlist