Chris and Vin are both now working for JumpButton Studio. Chris is working on Focus Find and Vin is working on an unannounced game. They also discuss Luminous Productions folding into Square Enix after the Forsaken flop. The Last of Us TV show was brilliant. Lance Reddick sadly passes away age 60.

Also discussed: Indie game dev, indie game marketing, working in indie games, Focus Find.