
Punishment is an easily avoidable topic for modern Christians. We tend to leave it for the “experts” beyond the Church. But what if the increasing injustice in criminal prosecution and punishment in wider society infiltrates our thinking as Christians? Does our squeamishness over things like the death penalty mean we become squeamish about the Bible too? What does it mean, for example, that the God of grace is also a God of justice who punishes evildoing? If we see the death penalty as always “barbaric”, what does that do to our understanding of Christ’s penal substitution at the Cross? What Biblical wisdom is there for those seeking greater justice in society when penalties have been too harshly (or too leniently) applied?
In this packed episode of Pod of the Gaps, Andy and Aaron dive into this complex topic with their usual mix of wit and wisdom, banter and the Bible.
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May 24, 2024
55 min

Over the last decade and a half, the pervasive use of smartphones has become the norm across the western world. Yet we’re still unaware of the precise long-term consequences. For those brought up without smartphones (or without the internet!) we may not even be in a position to know the full extent of the most negative effects upon child development and socialisation.
As politicians consider banning smartphones from schools, is there also some drastic reflection the Church needs to do too? How can Christians encourage parents to make wise choices to help their children thrive against the technological tide? If, as some authors suggest, smartphones have made children more anxious and lonely, how might Christians show them a better way?
RESOURCES:
- Jonathan Haidt, "The Anxious Generation: How the Great Rewiring of Childhood is Causing an Epidemic of Mental Illness" (Penguin, 2024)
- Rod Liddle, ‘Kids and Smartphones: An Inconvenient Truth’, The Spectator (24th Feb 2024)
- Tony Reinke, 12 Ways Your Phone Is Changing You (Crossway, 2017)
- Anthony Esolen, 10 Ways To Destroy the Imagination of Your Child (ISI Books, 2013)
May 4, 2024
39 min

Episode 78 - Islamism and Islamophobia: A Christian Response (feat. Tim Dieppe of Christian Concern)
Many Christians are naïve about the ways Islam has gained much ground within western society in recent years, influencing numerous spheres of culture, politics, and law. The vision of Islamic beliefs ruling all spheres of society (‘Islamism’) may not be adopted by all western Muslims, but it is a belief entirely consistent with Islamic tradition.
Where Muslims are often very bullish about defending their values and public symbols, Christians often happily give away such cultural ground, fearing the accusation of ‘Islamophobia’. What are the implications of allowing elements of Shariah Law to be imposed within western societies today? What can Christians draw upon to think through and respond to these challenges with love, confidence, and clarity?
In this special episode in our mini-series on Islam, Andy and Aaron are joined by Tim Dieppe (Christian Concern), a regular media commentator on Christianity and Islam in British public life, to talk through these important issues.
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RESOURCES:
- Tim Dieppe, “What’s Wrong With Islamic Finance?” (2018) https://christianconcern.com/resource/whats-wrong-islamic-finance/
- Christian Concern resources on Islam. https://christianconcern.com/ccissues/islam/
- Andy Bannister, “Do Christians and Muslims Worship the Same God?” (2021)
- Rodney Stark, “God’s Battalions: The Case for the Crusades” (2010)
- Raymond Ibrahim, “Defenders of the West: The Christian Heroes Who Stood Against Islam” (2022)
Apr 5, 2024
1 hr 6 min

More and more Christians in western society today see the ever-increasing need to reach Muslims with the Gospel. The problem is: how? In this special episode, Aaron is joined by Bob of Speaker’s Corner to talk through challenges, strategies, and related issues that come with taking seriously the Muslim mission field before us.
Bob is known especially for his confrontational mode of engagement in such mission, which some Christians disagree with. Is this because we’re overly influenced by “middle class churchianity”? In what ways can a more direct approach be more fruitful in reaching Muslims today?
How does our wider progressive political culture affect our ability to challenge the beliefs of Muslims publically? What are the risks involved, and how can we navigate them with both wisdom and courage?
All this and more, on this jam-packed episode of Pod of the Gaps.
Useful Links:
- https://www.youtube.com/@SocoFilms
- 'Dawa Clowns Interrupting Conversation' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Eodk1A7x14&t=973s
- https://twitter.com/btbsoco
- Andy Bannister, "Do Muslims and Christians Worship the Same God?" (London: IVP, 2021)
Mar 28, 2024
1 hr 13 min

We've come to expect the politically correct and increasingly “woke” posture of many of the Church of England’s official statements and policies in recent years. Recent announcements on issues such as race, Islam, sexuality, and even evangelism, showcase a desire to “play nice” with the secular and multicultural political establishment rather than offering a genuinely prophetic voice.
But is the CofE’s descent into ever more progressive viewpoints is inevitable? What about those who seek to reform Anglicanism from within, restoring its evangelical roots? Is there a case for disestablishing the Church of England altogether? What would we lose (or gain) if we did?
Andy (a reluctant Anglican) and Aaron (a Methodist exile) dive into this entirely non-controversial topic with the usual mix of wit, wisdom, and insight.
RESOURCES ETC MENTIONED IN THE SHOW
* CofE Press Release: https://bit.ly/48XQiEF
* CofE "Healing, Repair and Justice" report (see clause 32): https://bit.ly/49Pnj7u
* Justin Welby's Ramadan video: https://bit.ly/3PjxqJt
* ChatGPT's attempt at impersonating the Archbishop of Canterbury: https://bit.ly/4c9ZkBt
* Michael Hampson, "Last Rites: The End of the Church of England " (Granta, 2006)
* Ben Merkle, "The White Horse King: The Life of Alfred the Great" (Thomas Nelson. 2009)
Mar 14, 2024
59 min

What are Christians supposed to do about the erosion of the Christian foundations of Western culture? Sometimes evangelicals have reacted by retreating from the call to be salt and light in the world, withdrawing into a narrow vision for the Gospel which limits its wider societal impact.
But isn't trying to change the world something that liberals tend to focus on? Does working for social change risk watering down the gospel? Should we be seeking a new version of “Christendom” today, or is this too unrealistic an aim for the modern Church?
Andy and Aaron explore all this ground, as well as thinking about what we can learn from evangelical missionaries who brought Christianity to other cultures.
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Resources Related to this Episode ...
Janet & Geoff Benge, "Mary Slessor: Forward into Calabar" (YWAM Publishing)
Corrie Ten Boom, "The Hiding Place" (Tyndale House Publishing)
Mar 7, 2024
1 hr 4 min

Week after week, year after year, churches spend inordinate amounts of time producing, presenting, and discussing sermons. Yet sermons are far less influential upon the average Christian’s life, faith, and beliefs than ever before. Why? The loss of pulpit authority? The loss of creativity in communication? The encroaching pressure of secular beliefs? The rise of podcasts and other digital media?
Many wonder whether “the sermon” is past its sell-by date. But what if the lacklustre impact of preaching has as much to do with cultural assimilation and theological erosion as unimaginative communication? Aaron and Andy dig into all these questions and more!
Feb 15, 2024
1 hr

In keeping with the now ancient Pod of the Gaps tradition, Andy and Aaron kick off the new year by identifying their collective key challenges for the Church to face up to as it seeks to meet this cultural moment in light of the Word of God. As they reflect on what the Church has already been facing and look forward to some of the more significant implications lying ahead in the near future, they each live-reveal their "3 challenges" (without conferring!) and see whether they end up more in harmony than cacophony! If you care about the direction of the Church in the challenging times ahead, you'll want to listen to this one!
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RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THE EPISODE:
Meic Pearse, "Why the Rest Hates the West"
Corrie Ten Boom, "The Hiding Place"
- https://davenantinstitute.org/uk-convivium-2024/
Jan 4, 2024
54 min

Evangelicals are renowned for using crazy-sounding adjectives to highlight the outlandish nature of God’s grace. This is often appropriate when speaking of God's love, but an overuse of such language potentially opens Christians up to progressive infiltration of the Gospel. Under the auspices of God’s grace being so “outrageous” that it overcomes all prior categories, some professing “evangelicals” are now saying repentance is simply “optional” and that some sin is not actually sin, after all. Might this actually devalue the outrageousness of grace by undermining the power of the Incarnation and the Cross? Whilst relishing God’s wonderful grace remains key, how do we stop this emphasis from condoning sin on our terms?
RESOURCES:
- https://www.terryvirgo.org/series/gods-lavish-grace/
- Dietrich Bonhoeffer, The Cost of Discipleship (1937)
- John Stott, The Cross of Christ (1986)
- https://www.premierchristianity.com/opinion/why-sex-outside-marriage-is-not-a-salvation-issue/16880.article
- https://www.premierchristianity.com/apologetics/from-islam-to-atheism-to-christianity-the-unlikely-conversion-of-ayaan-hirsi-ali/16741.article
CLOSING MUSIC
- "Little Town of Bethlehem" by Kate Rusby, from her album "While Mortals Sleep"
Dec 22, 2023
48 min

In these secular times, Christmas is ever in danger of being hijacked by the fairy-lit glitz of advertising and consumerism. Christians often find themselves dragged into alternative versions of Christmas which bear little connection to the Christian story.
But while Christians rightly lament the problem of worldly materialism, are there also dangers that we also miss something vital about the “material” nature of what Christmas actually is, at heart? How might we remain both holy and merry at Christmas? How might we enjoy good gifts with gratitude without being sucked into a self-indulgent vortex? And what does Andy Bannister refuse to have in his lounge …? Find out in this special episode of Pod of the Gaps!
RESOURCES:
- C.S. Lewis, “Xmas and Christmas: A Lost Chapter From Herodotus” (1954)
- Douglas Wilson, "God Rest Ye Merry: Why Christmas Is the Foundation for Everything" (2012)
- Andrew Isker, "The Boniface Option: A Strategy for Christian Counter-Offensive in a Post-Christian Nation" (2023)
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Dec 16, 2023
56 min
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