Our host, Dax Moreno, is joined by not one but TWO developers on this week’s episode - Justice Yao and John McCormick - from cybersecurity specialists, Def-Logix! They both share their experience and personal perspectives as software developers in different stages of their career journey. Listen in to hear their take on everything from organizing chaos through code to working in San Antonio and why they think everyone should dip a toe into the world of programming!