Former Alberta premier Jason Kenney joins the pod for a candid conversation about patriotism in a time of separatism. Kenney describes the movement as a “perfect umbrella for every obsession, paranoia and anxiety” gripping parts of the province's right wing. He shares how it's getting personal — ending friendships, including some of his own, and dividing families. And he predicts separatism will be a permanent wedge inside Alberta's conservative party.Plus, Nick watches for Mark Carney vacation plans as trade issues escalate. And Mickey has her eye on Pierre Poilievre, who's been unusually quiet while Conservatives feud online.