In this episode, Gabby speaks with Matt Klimas, the Virginia-based graphic designer and game developer behind the graveyard-building card game Grim Acres. They talk about the beauty of graveyards, the challenges of game balance, and the creative processes for card games and board games with a physical component.

The music in this episode comes from Robby Duguay. You can check out more of Robby’s work by following him on Twitter @RobbyDuguay or check out his website at composer.games.