Arno Ilgner is known for being a pioneer in the rock climbing community.  From his early climbing experiences and interest in mental training from warrior archetype and zen philosophies, Arno created the Desiderata Institute.  The Desiderata Institute trains climbers on the movement and mental aspects of climbing.  He later compiled his mental training notes into a 7 process program found in his first book The Rock Warrior’s Way: Mental Training For Climber’s.  In his discussion with Chad, Arno discusses in depth how these 7 mental processes can be adapted to an acupuncture career and athletes of all sports