What an absolutely fascinating conversation I had with Steffie de Gaetano.Steffie is a Dutch-Italian interdisciplinary researcher who works at the intersection of architecture, art, and anthropology.Her current work Permeance investigates the River Dommel in relation to her heritage, colonialism, extractivism, and contamination as a means to approach the entanglements of earthly life.Listen in and to learn even more, head over to her website at https://steffiedegaetano.net/index.htmlYou can also follow her at https://www.instagram.com/steffiedegaetano/As always, if you would like to share your photographic story in relation to environmental matters, contact me via https://www.josiepurcellphotography.com/ or find me on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/josieshutterpod/