Science has to generate output. Art has to cater to an audience. Could art and science join forces to free science from definite outputs and art from definite audiences? Or would art then also be measured by its outcome and science by its audience? Listen to Chus Martínez in conversation with artists Julieta Aranda, Marco Roso, and Elena Mazzi.

Law of the Sea

This podcast series explores the agency of the ocean. Can the ocean think? feel? Act? And yes, it does!
We have been collaborating with TBA21–Academy for some years now in our common pursuit of a non-binary understanding of the coexistence of culture and nature, of us and the ocean. This podcast series should therefore be viewed as the beginning of a series of humble but meaningful productions that address these very issues. Now that we are so worried about our own existence, we should also consider the existence of other nonhuman forms of life. Now that we are so anxious about our future, we may be able to understand the fear held by nature, by the oceans, by all those that have felt threatened by our actions.
We really hope you enjoy this podcast channel and we are looking forward to providing further content and artistic input here and via social media channels as well as the Ocean Archive by TBA21–Academy.


OCEAN WANTS
Episode 15 to 25, is a series commissioned by TBA21–Academy that playfully explores how nonhumans could like our planet to be. In each episode, writer Ingo Niermann meets with an expert from a different field to ask: What would a given species come up with if it could be as dominant as humans have been?


CORONA UNDER THE OCEAN
Episode 6 to15 present conversations between guests from various disciplines and writer and curator Sonia Fernández Pan. The series Corona Under the Ocean offers a transoceanic perspective emerging from the fields of marine science, postcolonial studies, speculative histories, and political imagination.


PHENOMENAL OCEAN
Episode 1 to 5 are based on contributions at The Current II, Summer School, and Convening #2: Phenomenal Ocean, both led by Chus Martínez, and held at TBA21–Academy at Ocean Space in Venice in September 2019. Can what is necessary be as well pleasurable? Can a radical transformation, following the principles of feminism, anti-racism, and anti-fascism eventually be easier than we think and closer than we expect?


FURTHER INFORMATION:
dertank.ch
ocean-archive.org/archive