A conversation between the Congolese artists Ced’art Tamasala and Lisette Mbuku Kimpala from the CATPC (Collectif du Centre d’Art des Travailleurs de Plantation Congolaise) and Carrie Pilto, curator of the exhibition "Someone is getting rich" at The Tropenmuseum in Amsterdam, presenting some of the CATPC artist's works.

About the links between the consequences of colonialism and the current financial system and the cooperative and community-based approach of art and agroforestry led by the CATPC.