On this episode, Trina has an open conversation with her son, Terrence Hayes Jr., about his experience growing up as a child with a fearful mother, navigating high-alert situations at school, and figuring out how to strike a balance between having what's needed to survive while being able to have the space to live and be free.

Terrence is a 13-year-old Black boy centering joy. He's an up & coming student-athlete, with a 3.8 GPA, who loves baseball. His favorite player is Jackie Robinson. When not on the field, he spends his time with family, his 3 pet dogs, and gaming with friends.